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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Doug Jones) writes:
>>Now, to the kermit respondant: is there a DOS version of kermit that
>>now supports winsock???

Since winsock is a standard tied up implicitly with the Windows way of
doing things, it is not possible for DOS kermit to support winsock.

>
>I understand your need, and I agree completely, and I am astounded that
>no one has done this as yet - it seems so simple. I heard this same "rumor"
>that Kermit supports TCP/IP - but as near as I can tell its only a rumor, at
>least on the PC platform. I ftp'd into the home of Kermit (Columbia) and went

Okay, the deal here is that there are many different versions of
Kermit, and at least two for "the PC platform".  Please remember that
(for the moment, at least) the "PC platform" does not directly equate
with Windows.  Some people still run the occasional DOS program, and
there is also some rumour of an operating system called "OS/2".

Kermit on DOS _does_ support TCP/IP, through a packet driver or an ODI
interface.  It has done this since about version 3.10, maybe earlier.
Kermit for Windows (if I remember aright) was abandoned pretty much
after its first incarnation.

So it's not a rumour, but if you're stuck in Windows, it's not
something you are likely to be able to use, unless you have a spare
packet driver interface lying about.

Alun.
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>I am getting a ERR Maildrop lock is busy error everytime I check my mail - any
>ideas on how to solve this?

>msv

I had this problem.. It was caused by a pop proccess not being killed.

Contact you network support people to kill the errant
proccess.

David
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Subject: Re: winsock idea

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Isis Leslie) writes:
|> Here's an idea for some bright Window's Sockets programmer
|>
|> I've looked around for this and I haven't found it...
|> (and it's very scary when I try to code anything!)
|>
|> Anyway I'd be very interested in a com port redirector.  The idea being that that a com port would be monitored by a winsock telnet program.  When the com port is accessed by a program, the telnet program then telnets to the address/port as specified in i|> t's configuration file.  I guess the telnet could be initiated by monitoring the rts and dtr states given by the program trying to access the port.
|>
|> I figure that this would be useful for communication and fax programs, also maybe printers and such.  I suppose LPT port redirection would be useful, but we already have several LPR and LPD programs around which work well with Windows.  I hope it's usable|>  under Winosck because I use several different stacks, Winsock being the only common dnominator.
|>
|> Obviously second would be a com port server which ran over winsock, but I guess we wouldn't want to ask for too much ;)

I don't know of anything like this and have thought of doing it. Trouble is,
it's less than easy, involving VxD writing.

I think I would need to do something like:

  Comms application
  -----------------
  Pseudo serial driver
  =================
  VxD layer
  =================
  Pseudo driver (other half)
  -----------------
  Telnet application
  -----------------
  Winsock

Does anyone know a good bock on writing Windows device drivers?

Richard Parratt
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Subject: Why doesnt send() send all my characters?

We're using the send()-function to send data from one PC to another.
We have done this with small data-packages (less than 300 bytes).
But we have now tried to send more data (over 3000 bytes (3082 exactly) ).
When the send function has been executed, it tells us that it only
transmitted 2920 bytes.
Our help file WINSOCK.HLP says this might happen, but not WHY it happens.
CAN SOMEONE OUT THERE HELP US?

(We have used GlobalAlloc() for allocating the sendbuffer, has this anything
 to do with it?)
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Subject: Re: Trumpet sucks.  Anyone else?

In article:  <2p5rdo$[e-mail]>
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>
> But who has a decent Windows News Reader???????
>

I just downloaded NewsWin from ftp.demon.co.uk and it seems to work fine for me.


Mark Webster